Comments on: Scientific Misconduct http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/ We have technical difficulties, it will take a day or two to get back to normal. Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:07:35 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Chemistry Blog » Blog Archive » Please hand me your final product http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1521 Chemistry Blog » Blog Archive » Please hand me your final product Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:06:32 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1521 [...] ethics is the new flavor of the week around the chemical blogosphere (TCB, CB, TCB) and continuing that trend is the story of Richard Lenski and conservapedia. Richard Lenski [...] [...] ethics is the new flavor of the week around the chemical blogosphere (TCB, CB, TCB) and continuing that trend is the story of Richard Lenski and conservapedia. Richard Lenski [...]

]]> By: mitch http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1506 mitch Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:41:00 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1506 What makes Open Access a model worth imitating? What makes Open Access a model worth imitating?

]]> By: Carl http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1505 Carl Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:23:58 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1505 What about the ethical misconduct of professional societies? The American Chemical Societies is having some problems, including trying to kill off Open Access to protect the bonuses of their leadership. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Chemical_Society And Rudy Baum, the editor of C&EN, is also a man with severe ethical issues. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rudy_Baum What about the ethical misconduct of professional societies? The American Chemical Societies is having some problems, including trying to kill off Open Access to protect the bonuses of their leadership.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Chemical_Society

And Rudy Baum, the editor of C&EN, is also a man with severe ethical issues.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rudy_Baum

]]> By: sunny beach http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1468 sunny beach Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:40:14 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1468 But only for that science you don't like! The good stuff, like global warming, we know they're all honest on that! But only for that science you don’t like! The good stuff, like global warming, we know they’re all honest on that!

]]> By: Phil http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1466 Phil Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:55:10 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1466 I think you're making some interesting points there. One of the biggest problems about unethical behaviour is the fact that there are no clear-cut boundaries. There seems to be a kind of "grey area" where some practices are quite common, although they could be interpreted as misbehaviour. The example about the published yield is a very good one. It is so common to publish the best yield instead of an average one that this could already be regarded as "normal". On the other hand, if I read a methodology paper, I expect the yields to be reproducible. I think you’re making some interesting points there. One of the biggest problems about unethical behaviour is the fact that there are no clear-cut boundaries. There seems to be a kind of “grey area” where some practices are quite common, although they could be interpreted as misbehaviour.

The example about the published yield is a very good one. It is so common to publish the best yield instead of an average one that this could already be regarded as “normal”. On the other hand, if I read a methodology paper, I expect the yields to be reproducible.

]]> By: mitch http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2008/06/25/scientific-misconduct/comment-page-1/#comment-1465 mitch Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:32:22 +0000 http://www.chemistry-blog.com/?p=273#comment-1465 I kind of wonder what they would of said if asked about the ethical conduct of their own research. Is it ethical for synthetics to only publish their maximum yield instead of their average yield with associated standard deviation? Is it ethical for physical chemists to use a q-test of 90% confidence to clean up outliers when a 95% confidence would be scientifically meaningful? Are using error bars based on a standard deviation of data points really more useful than instead carrying all the different types of systematic and human errors and basing it off that? I kind of wonder what they would of said if asked about the ethical conduct of their own research.

Is it ethical for synthetics to only publish their maximum yield instead of their average yield with associated standard deviation?

Is it ethical for physical chemists to use a q-test of 90% confidence to clean up outliers when a 95% confidence would be scientifically meaningful? Are using error bars based on a standard deviation of data points really more useful than instead carrying all the different types of systematic and human errors and basing it off that?

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