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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.chemistry-blog.com/2009/10/14/web-2-0-in-the-classroom/comment-page-1/#comment-7995</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great! I have usually advised professors and educators to stay off facebook, and stick with social networks like Ning that they have more control over. 

Thanks for giving me a good reason to take another look at Facebook as a viable option.

I write for ASSETT, a program with the university of colorado at boulder that aims to help teachers and students use technology to assist in teaching and learning. If you all are ever looking for new ideas on technology tools, check out our website at http://assett.colorado.edu.

Thanks again,
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great! I have usually advised professors and educators to stay off facebook, and stick with social networks like Ning that they have more control over. </p>
<p>Thanks for giving me a good reason to take another look at Facebook as a viable option.</p>
<p>I write for ASSETT, a program with the university of colorado at boulder that aims to help teachers and students use technology to assist in teaching and learning. If you all are ever looking for new ideas on technology tools, check out our website at <a href="http://assett.colorado.edu" rel="nofollow">http://assett.colorado.edu</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Perfesser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perfesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using facebook in my lecture courses for organic and general chemistry for a few years.  I don&#039;t use it &quot;top down&quot; as a course management tool, but &quot;bottom up&quot; as a place for student-driven discussions outside of the classroom.  With a modest dose of both carrots and sticks to encourage participation, the students have generally taken to it and run with it with very little prodding from me.  The one point at which I do &quot;interfere&quot; is by posting a collaborative problem for every exam a week prior to the exam.  These are usually thought experiments which get the students to think at a higher level than could reasonably be assessed in an traditional exam setting.  They are free to discuss the problem on the facebook group and elsewhere as much as they want prior to the exam.

Typically, over the course of a semester in a course of 70 students, there are 700-800 postings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using facebook in my lecture courses for organic and general chemistry for a few years.  I don&#8217;t use it &#8220;top down&#8221; as a course management tool, but &#8220;bottom up&#8221; as a place for student-driven discussions outside of the classroom.  With a modest dose of both carrots and sticks to encourage participation, the students have generally taken to it and run with it with very little prodding from me.  The one point at which I do &#8220;interfere&#8221; is by posting a collaborative problem for every exam a week prior to the exam.  These are usually thought experiments which get the students to think at a higher level than could reasonably be assessed in an traditional exam setting.  They are free to discuss the problem on the facebook group and elsewhere as much as they want prior to the exam.</p>
<p>Typically, over the course of a semester in a course of 70 students, there are 700-800 postings.</p>
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		<title>By: Em</title>
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		<dc:creator>Em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my opinion, iTunes U/MIT OCW are great resources, but some of the courses are incomplete and must be remedied prior to implementing them.  These tools are good for classroom use as well as independent learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my opinion, iTunes U/MIT OCW are great resources, but some of the courses are incomplete and must be remedied prior to implementing them.  These tools are good for classroom use as well as independent learning.</p>
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		<title>By: excimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>excimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;How has the overall response been? &lt;/em&gt;

Both positive and negative. Most students do not approach the course with an open mind (it&#039;s orgo, orgo is hard, it&#039;s the pre-med killer, etc.), and most have never taken an online class before, so they don&#039;t start the semester very optimistic. However, by the end of the semester, most of the students have turned around.

&lt;em&gt;Did students/administrators initially seem open to the idea?&lt;/em&gt;

Admin LOVES it. It&#039;s cheaper, and requires hiring fewer TAs as graders, because the tests are fully online and graded with a click of a button- after many a Saturday wasted grading paper exams, I literally swooned the first time I saw all 700 tests graded with a push of a button. Students&#039; initial opinions range from ambivalent to hostile. But (and this is putting it nicely) students&#039; opinions are a dime a dozen.

&lt;em&gt;When given the choice, do students actively choose the virtual classroom over the traditional classroom?&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s too early to tell. We do know that most students leave the course with a more positive attitude toward online courses.

&lt;em&gt;And if you have firsthand experience with it, what are some of the things you liked about the specific web 2.0 platforms used? Would you have used different ones or used them differently?&lt;/em&gt;
The big online tool we use is ACE Organic, developed by Bob Grossman at UK. It&#039;s a fully online organic chemistry problem set, which allows students to draw molecules, reaction mechanisms, and the like using MarvinSketch. It provides feedback for the student if the student gets a problem wrong- for example, if you try to do an Sn2 reaction on a tertiary carbon, it will provide relevant feedback, such as &quot;Sn2 reactions on tertiary carbons are extremely slow. Recall that carbocations increase in stability with increasing substitution.&quot; ACE organic alone has been worth the effort of the redesigned class. 

While there is a fee for students to use ACE Organic, &lt;em&gt;we have gotten rid of a textbook for the course.&lt;/em&gt; The fee for ACE is about $20/student or so, and the price of the course notes is about the same. In that way, we&#039;ve rid ourselves of the stranglehold of textbook organization, which ranges anywhere from random to atrocious. Textbooks are a racket.

Anywho, for discussion sessions we use Elluminate Live, which has whiteboard, video conferencing, and desktop control features. Unfortunately, it&#039;s also buggy and the server tends to overload a lot. Discussion boards are handled on the school&#039;s discussion board servers. 

Shoot me an email if you want more info on what we&#039;ve been doing. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How has the overall response been? </em></p>
<p>Both positive and negative. Most students do not approach the course with an open mind (it&#8217;s orgo, orgo is hard, it&#8217;s the pre-med killer, etc.), and most have never taken an online class before, so they don&#8217;t start the semester very optimistic. However, by the end of the semester, most of the students have turned around.</p>
<p><em>Did students/administrators initially seem open to the idea?</em></p>
<p>Admin LOVES it. It&#8217;s cheaper, and requires hiring fewer TAs as graders, because the tests are fully online and graded with a click of a button- after many a Saturday wasted grading paper exams, I literally swooned the first time I saw all 700 tests graded with a push of a button. Students&#8217; initial opinions range from ambivalent to hostile. But (and this is putting it nicely) students&#8217; opinions are a dime a dozen.</p>
<p><em>When given the choice, do students actively choose the virtual classroom over the traditional classroom?</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s too early to tell. We do know that most students leave the course with a more positive attitude toward online courses.</p>
<p><em>And if you have firsthand experience with it, what are some of the things you liked about the specific web 2.0 platforms used? Would you have used different ones or used them differently?</em><br />
The big online tool we use is ACE Organic, developed by Bob Grossman at UK. It&#8217;s a fully online organic chemistry problem set, which allows students to draw molecules, reaction mechanisms, and the like using MarvinSketch. It provides feedback for the student if the student gets a problem wrong- for example, if you try to do an Sn2 reaction on a tertiary carbon, it will provide relevant feedback, such as &#8220;Sn2 reactions on tertiary carbons are extremely slow. Recall that carbocations increase in stability with increasing substitution.&#8221; ACE organic alone has been worth the effort of the redesigned class. </p>
<p>While there is a fee for students to use ACE Organic, <em>we have gotten rid of a textbook for the course.</em> The fee for ACE is about $20/student or so, and the price of the course notes is about the same. In that way, we&#8217;ve rid ourselves of the stranglehold of textbook organization, which ranges anywhere from random to atrocious. Textbooks are a racket.</p>
<p>Anywho, for discussion sessions we use Elluminate Live, which has whiteboard, video conferencing, and desktop control features. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s also buggy and the server tends to overload a lot. Discussion boards are handled on the school&#8217;s discussion board servers. </p>
<p>Shoot me an email if you want more info on what we&#8217;ve been doing. =)</p>
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		<title>By: azmanam</title>
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		<dc:creator>azmanam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, a lot of the info pdfs were obtained from this very informative website for the technologically adept educator:

http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/ELI7ThingsYouShouldKnow/33438</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, a lot of the info pdfs were obtained from this very informative website for the technologically adept educator:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/ELI7ThingsYouShouldKnow/33438" rel="nofollow">http://www.educause.edu/Resources/Browse/ELI7ThingsYouShouldKnow/33438</a></p>
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		<title>By: azmanam</title>
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		<dc:creator>azmanam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very fun.  

How has the overall response been?  Did students/administrators initially seem open to the idea?  When given the choice, do students actively choose the virtual classroom over the traditional classroom?  And if you have firsthand experience with it, what are some of the things you liked about the specific web 2.0 platforms used?  Would you have used different ones or used them differently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very fun.  </p>
<p>How has the overall response been?  Did students/administrators initially seem open to the idea?  When given the choice, do students actively choose the virtual classroom over the traditional classroom?  And if you have firsthand experience with it, what are some of the things you liked about the specific web 2.0 platforms used?  Would you have used different ones or used them differently?</p>
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		<title>By: excimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>excimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our organic chemistry course is now &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nchem.138&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fully online&lt;/a&gt; using many of the tools you mentioned. The revolution won&#039;t be televised. It&#039;ll be... streamed, I guess. Put on YouTube?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our organic chemistry course is now <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nchem.138" rel="nofollow">fully online</a> using many of the tools you mentioned. The revolution won&#8217;t be televised. It&#8217;ll be&#8230; streamed, I guess. Put on YouTube?</p>
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